You make the call #5

OK, be patient here folks....runner on 1b and 3b, 1 out.
Batter bunts, defense throws to 1b, firstbaseman pulls off the bag and throws home to get the 3b baserunner out. What appears to be a double play actually is a live ball with a kid cruising into 3b and the batter going to 2b. Now, this is a true story, when the defense team thought they had indeed won the NSA state championship, they rushed the field, players, coaches, parents (I probably would have done the same thing). Anyway, now we have a live ball, pure choas and my kids are still running.
In the mix the catcher sees that they are not out of the inning and tags batter on deck, no BS, thats how crazy it got. Now my runner scores and BAM!, the ump says that I touched her while on 3b and therefor she is out.
My question is this? How would you as an ump work this out?
Was the other team in the way?
Did I enable the baserunner to proceed?
Which rule applies first and why?


BTW, this was probably the best TB game I've ever seen.
Alls well that ends well.....the pitcher of the Cobras is now the college roommate with the my DD who bunted the ball and we're all good friends!

 

Clarify: " ump says that I touched her while on 3b "

First of all, what were you doing on third base?

Secondly, touch? or push, shove, drag towards home. Those are different things. A high five or a hand clap is nothing. Anything that can be viewed as an "assist" is an obvious bad thing. If you grabbed her shoulder to get her attention then pointed to home, then you're in the gray area of umpire judgement. Wouldn't have wanted to be in either of your shoes.

 

...i was the 3b coach. i understand the "no assist" rule as it applies to a runner on the bases.
my ? to ya'll is.....when the other team, coaches, parents, rushed the field in joy...which obviously is some kind of infraction, and i, the idiot 3b coach assists the runner, (the ump saw it that way, so thats the way it is), how do you, the umps, call this play?
Would you send the runner back to 3b, and have 2 outs?
Would you call that runner out because the 3b coach touched her?
Would you give a free base to both runners because the other team rushed the field?

I know that they'res a few TBR users that were at that game, and we're all friends to this day.

Whats your call Crybabies? How would you call it Micweiser?
Fishfriend

 

What infraction are you looking for against the defense? Did they not start the pitch with 8 players between the foul lines? Did any of these "illegal players" touch the ball? Did they clearly impede your runners? If not, then don't look for the umpire to make a call against them.

BTW, even if you had a case for obstruction, interference typically trumps obstruction, and assisting the runner is considered interference. If your runner had just run past you to home, then the umpire wouldn't have had anything to call on you either.

Uh, how long ago did this happen, anyway?

 

...ok, let me get this straight, during a live play, theres no infraction for the defense team to come out of the dugout, and onto the field? That makes no sense to me.
6 or 7 years ago in Charlotte. 12u NC Dominators vs. Car Cobras.
I think it was the "if" game.

 

When accused of a wrong doing, my children often offer up something else done by one of their siblings. Do you think that removes their guilt, even if the distracting offense is greater?

Umpire: "You committed interference, that's an out. Now, that that issue is settled, what penalty would you like me to assess against the other team? Oh, sorry, already got three in the bottom of the seventh. Never mind."

Here is the current ASA rule about players being out of the dugout:

So... all the umpire has to do, per rule, to handle that is give the team a warning. Again, game over.​

 

...well I'm glad I didn't punch him in his fat face. He'd have won a civil law suit against the Fishman just by referring to this rule. Wow!, and to think I could have lost more than just a game. lol

 

....forget post # 8, I'm calling BS on this rule and I'll argue it until the cows come home!
I accepted the call in the game in favor of the situation and the kids!
And, with all due repect to the Cobras, and I do respect them, it would be an injustice to not mention that they were PURE CLASS in they're involvement both during the play and ESPECIALLY afterwards.
No one argued the call.
No one likeed such an awesome series to be decided like it was.
I don't blame anybody but me.
Never have, never will, but I think this #5 game situation does consider discussion of such a wild gig.