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Discussion in 'Softball Forum' started by curverise, Sep 3, 2008.

  1. WndMillR

    WndMillR Full Access Member

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    My guess for D1 is not contact. no practice, etc...

    I have a kid at Peace right now that transfered from another conference school..

    She has to sit a year...
    No practice, nothing......
     
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    First... transferring from a D2/3 to a D1 scholarship position is very rare....
    Most likely, you would try and walk on... Only kid I know that ever did it, went D3 one year, transferred to Florida JUCO, then finished at a D1.

    As far as the coach leaving, happens all the time....your deal is with the school... I believe softball allows a one time transfer at the D1 level, as long as the school you are leaving releases you.
     
  3. Braves

    Braves Watauga Pioneers #6

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    WndMillR- Can you inform our members about the NLI and what it means? Does a player actually have to sign one? If they do what does it mean?
     
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  4. WndMillR

    WndMillR Full Access Member

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    From the BIG BLUE BOOK>>>

    Here it is straight from the manual....
    NLI is only applicable at the D1 and D2 levels.
    D3 is based solely on each specific institutions standards.

    Your signing with the school...not the coach



    Frequently-Asked Questions on
    The National Letter of Intent/Financial Aid



    1. What is the National Letter of Intent?
    2. What happens if I sign a National Letter of Intent then decide to go to a different college?
    3. Can a college or university reduce or cancel my scholarship during the academic year?
    4. How long does a scholarship last and can the college cancel my scholarship after the first year?
    The National Letter of Intent
    The National Letter of Intent (NLI) is a binding agreement between a prospective student-athlete and an institution in which the institution agrees to provide a prospective student-athlete who is admitted to the institution and is eligible for financial aid under NCAA rules athletics aid for one academic year in exchange for the prospect's agreement to attend the institution for one academic year. All colleges and universities that participate in the NLI program agree to not recruit a prospective student-athlete once he/she signs an NLI with another college or university. Therefore, a prospective student-athlete who signs an NLI should no longer receive recruiting contacts and calls and is ensured an athletics scholarship for one academic year. The NLI must be accompanied by an institutional financial aid agreement. If the student-athlete does not enroll at that institution for a full academic year, he/she may be subject to specific penalties, including loss of a season of eligibility and a mandatory residence requirement.
    The NLI program is administered through the NCAA Eligibility Center. Specific questions regarding its application should be directed to the NLI office at 317/223-0706. Additional information, including frequently asked questions, can be obtained through the NLI Program Web page at http://www.national-letter.org.


    Breach of National Letter of Intent by Student-Athlete prior to initial enrollment, practice and competition in order to attend another institution
    By signing a National Letter of Intent, a prospective student-ahtlete agrees to attend the designated college or university for one academic year. If the prospective student-athlete does not attend the signing institution or attends that institution for less than one academic year, and enrolls in another college that participates in the National Letter of Intent program there may be eligibility ramifications. The basic penalty may preclude the student-athlete from representing the second college until completing an academic year in residence at the latter institution and may lose one season of competition in all sports.
    For further information, visit the National Letter of Intent Web site or contact the National Letter of Intent office at:
    P.O. Box 7132
    Indianapolis, IN 46207-7132
    317/223-0706

    Institutional Financial Aid -- Reduction/Cancellation


    If a student-athlete is receiving institutional financial aid based in any degree on athletics ability, that financial aid MAY be reduced or canceled during the period of award (e.g., during that year or term) only if the student-athlete:
    1. Renders himself or herself ineligible for intercollegiate competition; or
    2. Misrepresents any information on an application, letter of intent or financial aid agreement; or
    3. Commits serious misconduct which warrants a substantial disciplinary penalty (the misconduct determination must be made by the university's regular student disciplinary authority); or
    4. Voluntarily quits the sport for personal reasons. In this case, the student-athlete's financial aid may not be given to another student-athlete during the term in which the aid was reduced or canceled.
    Institutional financial aid based in any degree on athletics ability MAY NOT be reduced, canceled or increased during the period of award:
    1. Based on a student-athlete's ability, performance, or contribution to a team's success; or
    2. Because an injury prevents the student-athlete from participating; or
    3. For any other athletics reason.
    Please contact the certifying institution or conference for additional information. You also may contact the NCAA membership services staff at 317/917-6222 if you have further questions
    Institutional Financial Aid Renewal/Nonrenewal
    Aid based in any degree on athletics ability cannot be awarded in excess of one academic year; the decision of whether a student-athlete is awarded institutional financial aid is made on a year-by-year basis, depending on the regulations of the institution.
    If a student-athlete is receiving institutional financial aid based in any degree on athletics ability, the institution must notify the student in writing on or before July 1 whether the aid has been renewed or not renewed for the next academic year. This written notification comes from the institution's financial aid authority and not from the athletics department.
    If the institution decides not to renew the aid, or is going to reduce the aid, the institution must notify the student-athlete in writing that he or she has the right to a hearing. This hearing is held before the institutional agency making the award.
    Keep in mind that the decision to renew or not renew the financial aid is left to the discretion of the institution, to be determined with its normal practices for students generally.
    Please contact the certifying institution or conference for additional information. You also may contact the NCAA membership services staff at 317/917-6222 if you have further questions.
     
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    Braves Watauga Pioneers #6

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    Thanks buddy!
     
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    why?

    did anyone find out why UNC would not grant the release?
     
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    Why no release?

    UNC states up front that, as a matter of practice, they will not grant players releases. Players know that when they sign. That said, Coach Papa has released players in the past. As with any such circumstance the 'whys' of the case depend on who you ask and are best left as a private matter. It is relatively rare that a player is denied the release on appeal. That was the case here and indicates that a relatively impartial group (faculty committee) felt that Coach Papa was justified.

    These players can practice. Faith will still have three years of eligibilty remaining after this season. If you look at the ECU roster you'll see she has an excellent opportunity going forward.
     
  8. WndMillR

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    the business of softball

    I would not even attempt to to guess why or why not a school grants a release of a student athlete.....That is totally within the framework of the coaching staff and ultimately the athletic director. If a program loses a scholarship athlete before he/she completes their degree, the NCAA will sometimes penalize the school that they left, in respect to the scholarship dollars available for that sport. Sometimes the effect is years after the kid is gone. I am not sure of the formula, or how it is calculated, but it does exist.

    There is a difference when kids leave after their freshman year that were walk-ons (no athletic money) vs a scholarship athlete.

    Choose where you go wisely.... when you don't get the playing time you think you should, that's not a reason to leave... You should have asked those questions before you said yes. If every coach granted a release, every June would create a merry-go-round as players jumped at will.
     
  9. Dukedog4

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    Sparknotes version . . . .

    The NLI is a one-year contract between the school and student-athlete. The school has exclusive rights to that person's athletic abilities for one year in exchange for the compensation specified in the agreement. The student-athlete may not compete for any other school that subscribes to the NLI process (almost all, in if not all D1 & D2 schools) unless released by the NLI school. The school promises to provide aid even if it turns out the kid can't really can't play or gets hurt. The aid can be cancelled if the kid screws up . . . becomes academically ineligible, fails drug test, etc.

    D3, JUCO's and NAIA are typically not subscribers to the NLI. So you can alway 'back out' and go that route.

    Bottom line is that many kids (parents) say they (their child) has 'signed' when they really haven't. Kids sign NLI's only as a result of receiving ATHLETIC scholarships at D1 or D2 schools. They may commit to play for school but without ATHLETIC $$ they are not 'signing'. Many times the signing ceremony you see in the local press is just that; a ceremony with no legal significance.
     
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    Agree

    Great post! Seek advise, knowledge, and ask questions before you decide.
     

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