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Tough times for coaches

Discussion in 'Baseball' started by Braves, Sep 21, 2004.

  1. Braves

    Braves Watauga Pioneers #6

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    I have never questioned a HS coach's commitment to his sport. These guys work 16-17 hours a day and receive a pittance of their time spent (.13 an hour). When you think about the importance a HS coach plays in your son's life...it hardly seems fair.

    What suggestions would you make to improve this continuing problem? Could involving Booster programs be a remedy?..or will this create bigger problems?

    http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/sports/9718154.htm
     
  2. hispeed

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    In most cases a winning team has a bigger crowd. Why not give the coaching staff a piece of the gate (.50) per person in attendence to enhance the desire to win. And if the kids are getting the benefit of the teaching of skills why not plan a Saturday fundraiser to help support the team costs. They already have to sell things for the school and I see where their team sport will be more beneficial to them personally than what they get from school sales. One or two car washes wouldn't hurt anyone and the money usually used for equipment could enhance coaches pay. And for the big dream, why not look to professional baseball to sponsor team scholarships for the coaches, for the good of the game. With all the money and contacts they have it would be great advertising to see them support the grass roots of baseball and keep the sport rolling.
     
  3. Nuff Ced

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    Coaching isn't about money. It's not even a job -- it is a lifestyle. Nuff Ced!
     
  4. Braves

    Braves Watauga Pioneers #6

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    I don't think anyone questions the lifestyle or their love for teaching young men and women. The turnover the Charlotte area (and the State as well) has in HS coaches has nothing to due with them changing their lifestyles. They remain coaching....but at higher salaries in other areas. It's amazing to think that the longest tenured coach in Charlotte football is a retiree from another state at one of the newest schools.(4 Years) and due to family pressures, many coaches are resigning to go into private business.

    Is it wrong for a coach to reap financial benefits for producing a quality program? If it is, there are many SC coaches who have enjoyed this benefit for decades.
     
  5. CFBall

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    i agree Braves! We have to start by paying our teaching professionals in NC above and beyond the national average. it a shame what they are paid here and throughout this great state.
     
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    Each school system can decide its coaching supplements and levels of experience counted. One system may pay a head baseball coach with 20 years of experience $3200.00 (before taxes! which are about 1/3 of the gross pay). Other systems would pay the same coach $900.00. Sometimes its the economics of the area and other times its the priority of the school system and its leaders.

    I know coaches who teach 5 classes, coach daily, maintain their facility year round for less than $35,000 a year. A typical game day may start at 8:00 AM and end at midnight.

    If you are coaching high school athletics money is probably not one of your top ten priorities in life.
     
  7. The "O"

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    Try this......

    Up until last season my 15th! 2200.00 for Baseball a mere 700.oo for TWO iI repeat TWO basketball teams... The day beginning at 6:45 and yes often times after 11 pm twice a week! 15 years of this! BUT as the latter post stated it is a LIFESTYLE or way of life I certainly do not did not do it for the money but for the love of the game and the inspiration you gain from nurturing and teaching kids about "LIFE"! Much more to follow on the news article today-look for the editorial section in the Charlotte news soon if they DARE to publish it! Bottom line it IS administrators and AD's who run coaches off at the HS level out of the profession! Not all but many do so wantonly with utter disregard to your experience credentials ability success PERIOD!!!!!!! These are the facts PERIOD!!!!1 :laugh1:
     
  8. rjr4dad

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    This may be a little hard for some people to swallow, but to me it explains why teachers and coaches receive what seems to be very little financial compensation while other "less noble" professions (like acting, entertaining, or professional sports) recieve such astronomical financial compensation.

    Financial compensation is based on the scarcity of the talent/skill and the number of people who pay to see it or learn from it.

    In the case of top athletes or actors or entertainers, they have raised their talent/skill to a level far above the level of the vast majority of the people in the world. In addition, think of how many people pay to watch these people perform. If a movie grosses over 250 million dollars, why not pay the lead actor 15 million dollars for their performance. If ticket sales and TV revenue from an NFL season can support paying top quarterbacks and receivers several millions of dollars a season, why not pay them that amount.

    On the other hand, teachers and coaches may also be very good at their profession, but how many people are they directly teaching and coaching each year? And how much money are they generating for their school? They teach and coach about 30 people each year. And there are tens of thousands of other high school teachers and coaches doing the same thing across the country. Since there is no real market economy governing salaries in our high school system, people are paid basically by the number of years they have been on the job rather than by their ability to do their job. Do the best high school coaches and teachers earn the most money? Not necessarily.

    It looks horrible from a societal standpoint that athletes, actors, and entertainers receive so much more money than teachers and coaches, but economically it is understandable. There are really only a very few actors/entertainers/athletes that earn millions of dollars each year. Most of the other actors/entertainers/athletes earn very ordinary salaries.

    I think for coaches or teachers to earn more money each year, they must figure out how they can coach or teach more paying people each year.

    Somehow they need to make themselves stand out from all other coaches and teachers and make more people want to pay them for their instruction. Why not record themselves coaching and teaching and sell the videos to others? Or why not write a book that can be sold to a wider group to raise more money? Or why not schedule some kind of clinic or whatever to enable more people to benefit from their knowledge and skill?

    Just my opinion.
     
  9. The "O"

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    GREAT......

    POST!!!!!!!....This is a FACT!!!!!!!!! :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
     
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    The first few posts of this thread seemed to hint that booster club could, or should, be involved in financing salaries. From a coaching stand point, this is bad business. Booster clubs do tremendous jobs in supplying uniforms, facilities, equipment, and other vital materials for athletic teams. However, in no way should they be empowered to make personnel decisions, that includes monetary compensation.

    Case in point, a coach a few years ago at a school where the boosters supplemented the coaches was told by a disgruntled parent (who also was the booster treasurer) that "some coaches get checks, just like some players get awards." I may be in the minority, but that Daddy(Mama)-ball mentality to high school athletics just doesn't sit well with me. I don't want the job knowing that I got to keep those 30 parents with the money happy to make an extra dollar. Cause guess what? I may make some unpopular decisions from time to time.

    Bottomline, if the boosters can pay coaches with their money, that provides them footing to make personnel decision -- an area that they may not be qualified. And . . . if you disagree with anything I just said -- don't worry, I've been called a MORON before.
     

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