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Trouble In Turn Two !!! New Legislation ???

Discussion in 'Softball Forum' started by Softball Guru, Mar 16, 2010.

  1. Softball Guru

    Softball Guru Banned From TBR

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    Dear College-Bound Student-Athlete:

    Division II adopted new legislation that applies to individuals who compete in organized competition after high school graduation and before enrolling in college. Division II college-bound student-athletes will now have a one-year grace period during which they can compete in "organized competition" after their expected (not necessarily "actual") graduation date. If uniforms were worn or score was kept, it would be considered organized competition. Please keep in mind that there are a number of other conditions that can trigger organized competition. If the student-athlete competes in organized competition after the grace period, he/she will lose a season of competition for every year that he or she competed. As a result of competing beyond the grace period, the student-athlete will also have to sit one year in residence. The student-athlete will be permitted to practice, but will not be allowed to participate in competition, provided all other initial-eligibility standards are met.

    For more information on your particular situation, it is recommended that you speak with the Division II institution that is recruiting you or where you are enrolling in the fall 2010. For information related to the NCAA rule, you can contact the NCAA academic and membership affairs staff between noon and 4 p.m. Eastern time at 317/917-6008.

    Sincerely,

    NCAA Eligibility Center


    Anybody out there know if this is valid or not or can explain it more clearer for us ??

    Thx, Guru
     
  2. Braves

    Braves Watauga Pioneers #6

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    If this is true, it should be illegal. It appears they are trying to protect their investment.
     
  3. SIFan

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    We got the same email

    I suspect everyone that is registered with the NCAA clearing house got it. Is everyone getting it? If so, I suspect it is legit.
     
  4. Stanlysoftball

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    JUST THINK

    If a girl plays softball for fun in her local church softball league and looses a year. Would that not tick some coaches and parents off???
     
  5. clevelandlefty

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    Don't know

    My DD got it also.
     
  6. Braves

    Braves Watauga Pioneers #6

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    Is this part of the new "Life in the Balance" Div II schools adopted towards college athletics?

    If it is, it's an interesting discussion topic
     
  7. WndMillR

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    Professional athletes

    This is what it means

    The proposal also introduces a year-long grace period between high school graduation and initial full-time collegiate enrollment during which prospects may engage in organized competition without penalty.

    "The year-long grace period is designed to take some of the guess work out of the system and not disadvantage the more non-traditional students who, for personal or family reasons, do not enroll in college right away. The proposal also more broadly defines activities that constitute organized competition. Management Council members and other governance groups like the proposal because of its flexibility on the front end and the more basic definition of competition (such as whether score is kept and uniforms are used) after the grace period.
    “It allows prospects, particularly those domestic and international students who aren’t sure of their college plans, more time to make their college choice without compromising their ability to compete,” said Management Council Chair Tim Selgo, athletics director at Grand Valley State. “But after that – rather than defining organized competition by whether any of the team members are paid – the new definitions are much more black and white.

    “So you have a year to test the waters, but after that, participation in organized competition comes with clear consequences.”
    The proposal emerged two years ago from presidents who were bothered by defining organized competition by whether players were compensated rather than the advantage gained by participating in the competition at all.


    The current legislation tends to capture players who aren’t paid but whose teammates are.


    Additionally, some teams do not receive compensation at all, but are highly organized based on their structure and the level of competition. Those teams are not captured by the current rule, either."


    FAQ's



    Following is an excerpt from a Q&A that the Division II Legislation Committee and national office staff compiled to help educate Division II members about the organized-competition proposal (No. 2010-11) headed to the Convention floor.
    Q If Proposal No. 2010-11 is adopted, when will the NCAA Eligibility Center begin applying the legislation?
    A The Eligibility Center will apply the newly adopted legislation immediately to all certifications that will be final on or after April 1, 2010.

    Q Will a prospective student-athlete be subject to the organized-competition legislation when he or she engages in all of the items listed in the definition or will participation in only one of the activities subject an individual to the legislation?
    A An individual will be subject to the organized-competition legislation if he or she participates in any of the athletics activities considered organized in Proposal No. 2010-11 after the grace period and before initial full-time collegiate enrollment.

    Q Is it permissible for a prospect to be a professional athlete during the one-year grace period and before enrolling in a collegiate institution without being subject to the organized-competition legislation?
    A Yes. Pursuant to Bylaw 12.1.2 (amateur status), before initial full-time collegiate enrollment, an individual may use his or her athletics skill for pay, accept pay or the promise of pay, sign a contract, receive a salary or financial assistance from a professional sports organization or compete on a professional team.

    Q Is it permissible for a prospect to agree to be represented by an agent during the one-year grace period and before enrolling in a collegiate institution without being subject to the organized-competition legislation?
    A Pursuant to Bylaw 12.3 (use of agents), an individual would jeopardize his or her amateur status if he or she enters into an agreement with an agent (orally or in writing) at any time before exhausting his or her intercollegiate eligibility.

    Q If Proposal No. 2010-11 is adopted, will it be applied retroactively to student-athletes who are currently enrolled at Division II institutions, have eligibility remaining and were subject to the previous organized-competition legislation?
    A No. The effective date for Proposal No. 2010-11 will apply to prospects who are issued a final amateurism certification by the NCAA Eligibility Center on or after April 1, 2010. Student-athletes who previously enrolled at an NCAA institution and have a final amateurism certification will not be re-certified.

    Q Why is the responsibility for notifying prospects and their parents or legal guardians about the organized-competition legislation not included in Proposal No. 2010-2 (recruiting and eligibility – admissions and graduation data, banned drug list and initial-eligibility standards – reports and notification – Eligibility Center) as a responsibility of the Eligibility Center?
    A Prospects often become subject to the organized-competition legislation before registering with the Eligibility Center. Institutions have access to prospects and their parents and legal guardians earlier than the Eligibility Center, and could educate them about the legislation, as they do about a variety of NCAA eligibility subjects.

    Q How does the one-year grace period apply to a prospect who graduates on a nontraditional date from high school (for example, November or December)?
    A The one-year grace period would begin after the date of the prospect’s high school graduation. The next opportunity to enroll would be the winter/spring semester or quarter after the one-year grace period.

    Q May a prospect who is subject to the organized-competition legislation in Proposal No. 2010-11 enroll at a collegiate institution, compete during his or her initial year, then transfer to a Division II institution and be immediately eligible if he or she meets the exception to the academic year in residence requirement?
    A Yes. A prospect may use the exception even if he or she competes at a collegiate institution, provided the prospect spent at least two semesters or three quarters at the collegiate institution and completed an average of at least 12 semester or 12 quarter hours of transferable degree credit for each full-time academic term of attendance at the two-year or four-year collegiate institution.

    Q May an institution file a waiver of the organized-competition legislation for a prospect who is subject to the rule?
    A Yes. An institution may file a Committee for Legislative Relief waiver in an attempt to retain a season(s) of competition or relief of the academic year in residence when mitigating circumstances are present.

    Q May an institution file a CLR waiver for a student-athlete who was previously certified by the NCAA Eligibility Center and subject to the organized-competition legislation that was in effect at the time of certification?
    A No. A student-athlete previously certified by the Eligibility Center under the rule in effect at the time of certification may not seek relief through the CLR waiver process based on the adoption of Proposal No. 2010-11.
     
  8. marlinfan1

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    This one hurts my head!

    Thanks CD for putting the lowdown in precise terms, but cmon brother, help out the fishman with laymens terms.

    Who wins, loses, or is there a winner or loser?

    Fishneighbor
     
  9. ladiesbballfan

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    I think the question is: Does this affect 18-U travel ball at all?
     
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    Q If Proposal No. 2010-11 is adopted, will it be applied retroactively to student-athletes who are currently enrolled at Division II institutions, have eligibility remaining and were subject to the previous organized-competition legislation?
    A No. The effective date for Proposal No. 2010-11 will apply to prospects who are issued a final amateurism certification by the NCAA Eligibility Center on or after April 1, 2010. Student-athletes who previously enrolled at an NCAA institution and have a final amateurism certification will not be re-certified.

    Does this answer my question? At least for the coming summer?
     

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