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What Percent of JV makes a varsity starter in later years?

Discussion in 'Softball Forum' started by EastOfRaleigh, Jun 28, 2009.

  1. EastOfRaleigh

    EastOfRaleigh Full Access Member

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    With so many freshman / soph's contributing (& many times starting and playing lead roles) on varsity programs right off the bat, what % of JV players end up actually making a varsity starter say in their jr & sr years? I'm thinking it's a fairly low percent if you actually did the #'s.
     
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    I believe you're right, the percentage would be less than 50% I think.

    At least part of that reason is the level of competition is low at the jv level. The skill of the coaching at the jv level is, for the most part, not very high. Add to that the fact that the cream of the crop at the middle school moving up to high school is probably going to be a little more skilled than the jv. Some of those players will be TB players whereas hardly any jv players are TB players.

    I see the potential on jv teams every year but mostly that talent is never developed. We encourage and urge players at both the varsity and jv level to play TB. A few from varsity do play TB but rarely, if ever, have I seen jv players play TB. Of course, you don't just decide to play TB; you have to be able to make the team.

    If the players were to work between seasons there would be quite a few more moving from jv to varsity but only a few do.

    We need more emphasis on creating interest in local rec leagues. There was a time when rec leagues were doing pretty good as far as teaching skills. True, they weren't at TB level but they did very well keeping kids interested. We need to get that back. I remember the old days the competition between Garner and Wilders Grove and Bunn and Knightdale and more. And Babe Ruth. Then TB hit and players started looking down on rec ball and it's never been the same.
     
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    ???

    I think by the time I was a junior or senior in high school ,and I was still playing JV, I would wonder about my ability to play Varsity. Usually after freshman year a kid will move to Varsity level if she has the talent or at least a floater back and forth !!
     
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    A lot of this will depend on the size of the school and the number of kids that show up from year to year. A school with over 2000 students only has about 30 slots to fill. In an area with a developed rec program and many travel teams, you may have 30 travel ballers trying out.

    However, 50% is probably as good a number as any.
     
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    I would have to disagree with this statement. I know my DD's JV team could play and BEAT quite a few Varsity teams 1A-4A. There are several teams with very strong programs that have good talent but there just enough space on the Varsity roster unless you sit the pines and that certainly is not going to help develop any skills by "ridding the pines"
     
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    There are always exceptions but I think generally what I said is true. It may not be true in all areas however. From what I've seen and read teams in the western part of the state may have jv teams that would beat most varsity teams in the east. I wish that wasn't the case. I would love for our eastern teams to be stronger. I'm basing my opinion on the jv teams on the Raleigh area in general. And most of the teams in the final 4 from the east were from the general Raleigh area.
     
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    My DD's JV team is about as far east as you can get. Wilmington
     
  8. EastOfRaleigh

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    no more than 50%

    I just counted up a local HS team I know of from their 2009 roster.

    4 of 9 varsity starters played JV ball at least 1 season. The other 5 never played JV.

    Don't know if these #'s are typical, but I am thinking that the percent of varsity starting players that also played some JV ball is no more than 50%, and many times much less.
     

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