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NW4A game of the year

Discussion in 'Football Forum' started by homerun, Oct 7, 2006.

  1. NewRiver

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    Watauga was just a little "out of their league" at Reynolds, as I suggested they might be in my earlier post. I thought the Pioneers would make a better showing than they did. The speedy Reynolds defense had no trouble keeping up with EB, and they know how to tackle.
    Reynolds has an outstanding defense, and a very strong stable of running backs, but IMO is somewhat lacking at the QB spot. Still, a very impressive team and one I would expect to make the state semifinal round.
     
  2. reynoldsrocks23

    reynoldsrocks23 1999,2002 4A State Champs

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    Of course they also had him with just 25 carries but he actually had 26 so I am not too sure how accurate their stats are. I think they must have gotten their stats from Watauga, the Asheville paper asked us after the game for the his individual stats and we told them 26 carries 73 yards, and he still put 25 carries 99 yards in his article so I guess he just went with what sounded better. But like you said it's irrelevent at this point.
     
  3. The Warden

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    But then again, they have Terrance Kincaid listed as WNC's leading rusher when Breitenstein actually is. Shows you how much the AC-T knows what's really going on.
     
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    reynoldsrocks23 1999,2002 4A State Champs

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    So true! :agreed:
     
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    Breitenstein MVP

    I'm still betting Eric will be the NW 4-A Player of the Year. He's taken a team picked to finish dead last in the conference, and brought them this far. We all know his numbers on offense, but what's amazing is he has done it while averaging 12.5 tackles per game on defense. He is a workhorse on both sides of the ball. EB is one that anyone would want on their side when going to battle. He's a special kid both on and off the field.
     
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    Is Watauga technically in the Citizen-Times coverage area?
     
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    Its pointless i know but heres what i have to say abou the 99 vs 73 thing.

    I went back and looked at the stats that Watauga did and everything was within 1-2 yards of what ACR had other than Erics rushing.

    Watauga uses the Statcrew system for keeping stats. It is the same system used by the NCAA. I know personally the guys that were running the program in the press box and I assure you that they got it right. The same guys that run it also run the program for App State home games. The Citizen Times writer even agreed that they did a very good job and he kept a running play by play as well and came up with similar figures. You should see there full stats online tomorrow.

    I went back and looked at our play-by-play printout that the program produces and i think I have found where we have a difference. You charged the snap that went over our qb's head as a rush for Eric because he recovered the ball, it was a loss of 24 so thats were the problem is. Technically this is wrong per the NCAA Stat handbook. It should count as a team rush. Heres the snippit from the manuel.

    SECTION 15—WILD PASS FROM CENTER
    Any loss resulting from an obvious wild pass from center is charged to “Center
    Pass” and not to any individual player. Team A is charged with a team rush,
    the loss and with a fumble.
    Any gain resulting from a wild pass from center is recorded as though the
    wild pass had not occurred.

    Info found at http://www.ncaa.org/library/statistical/football_stats_manual/2006/2006_football_stats_manual.pdf
     
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    hmm

    That would make sense, whspioneers. But the question remains, what's the nchsaa rule; is it the same as the ncaa rule? I used to cover HS football a few years ago and plays like that always created confusion. Another tricky one is when a back say rushes for 40 yards but there's a holding call down field; after the flag the net gain ends up being 20 yards. Does the RB get credit for 40 yards and then you mark in 20 for the penalty, or does he get 30 yards and you mark in 10 for the penalty...that sort of thing...

    Regardless, ACR deserves credit for holding him to under 100, as the rest of the conference has been lucky to keep him under 300. But credit Watauga for having more success moving than ball against ACR than most teams have, even if it wasn't nearly enough thanks to all the darned turnovers, bad snaps, and penalties.
     
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    Apparently not anymore. At the time that Reynolds came into the Northwestern 4A Conference they were being covered, but I guess they've since removed them from the coverage area for some reason. However, the AC-T sells and has subscribers in the Boone/Watauga County area and gives coverage of Appalachian State athletics. One would think that Watauga would be in their coverage area.

    Not that I think Buggy isn't worthy of being WNC's leading rusher, but we have to be fair and not kid ourselves in that Breitenstein is the real WNC leader in rushing. If Marty Queen puts in his article that Kincaid is second to Breitenstein, shouldnt the AC-T? After all, AC-T Sports Editor Bob Berghaus put in the sunday paper about sportsmanship in that Roberson soccer scored a goal on a bad call and then gave up the goal by telling the head referee they were offsides (or something to that effect..) to begin with. Its kinda like preaching to the chior.

    Speaking of Berghaus, I sent him a rather decent email about the complete disregard of coverage for the other five teams of the Nw4A outside of Reynolds and McDowell. I mean if you cover 2 of 7 teams, then you're not getting the full coverage of what's really going on in that league. Also if they go to cover Reynolds against East Burke, South Caldwell, or whoever, they should be sending some reporters to cover games like Fat Friday, Alex. Central-South Caldwell, And other important Nw4A games instead of waiting till they get to Dalton Stadium. We're just as important as the MAC 3A, Western Highlands 2A/1A, WAC 2A, and the Smoky Mountain 1A and are the most successful conference in North Carolina in football to date and we're not even a football conference!

    They call themselves "The Voice Of The Mountains".....Hell, they only speak for a few teams namely Reynolds, Asheville High, and T.C. Roberson.
     
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  10. reynoldsrocks23

    reynoldsrocks23 1999,2002 4A State Champs

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    Shouldn't the This Board Rocks be the voice of our conference? Not the AC-T!
     

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